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[WATCH] Malema on Kaya Drive: “I have a closer relationship with Cyril than Zuma!”

By: Natasha Archary 


Former ANC Youth League President, now Commander-in-Chief of the Economic Freedom Fighters, Julius Malema joined Sizwe Dhlomo in-studio on Kaya Drive this Tuesday.

Well-known for his ‘no holds barred’ approach to politics Malema did not disappoint with candid responses to everything from why he changed his mind on Zuma’s arrest to his denial of dealings with businessman Adriano Mazotti.

When Sizwe broached the topic of former president Jacob Zuma’s arrest and why the EFF leader changed his tune from arresting him to release him, he explained that while Zuma does need to serve out his sentence there was no need for him to sit in prison.

“What is a man approaching 80-years old being in prison going to achieve? He’s old. He’s sitting in a correctional facility. What are we going to correct in an 80-year old? There is no purpose for his prison term.”

Malema would rather have Zuma under house arrest, which would be equally as effective. Clearing up any confusion about his ‘soft spot’ for Zuma, Malema was vocal in that this isn’t the case.

Listen to Malema explaining why he has a better relationship with President Cyril Ramaphosa than he does with former president Jacob Zuma:

“I have never been close to Zuma. I couldn’t just pick up the phone and call him. I have a better relationship with Cyril than I ever did with Zuma. I never had Zuma’s phone number, I have Cyril’s.” – Julius Malema

Speaking about the ANCYL’s rise and fall, Malema knew it was time to leave and lead a party that was on its own trajectory apart from the ANC. Where once there was support for the ANC and Zuma, before departing from the ANCYL, Malema was instrumental in heading up the #ZumaMustFall banner.

“We told him, we helped build him, we would help take him down. He didn’t listen!”

WATCH the full in-studio interview here:

Mazotti this, Mazotti that

Touching on the EFF’s involvement with businessman Adriano Mazotti, Malema denied his party had anything to do with Mazotti. This includes reports of Mazotti funding the party ahead of its registration in the 2014 general elections.

He reiterated his response back in 2019 when he was quoted in media for saying, “They keep saying Mazzotti this, Mazzotti that. They have got the power and authority. We never said Mazzotti must not be arrested. If there is evidence then the law must do what needs to be done and he should be arrested. I’m not protecting anyone.”

CR17 bank statements

Vocal about the Pretoria High Court’s ruling to keep Cyril Ramaphosa’s 2017 bank statements sealed, Malema criticised the inconsistency with the rules around transparency. He spoke about the statements potential to shed light on the ruling party’s tendency for the exchange of funds with private individuals.

Malema’s court bid to unseal CR17’s bank statements were dismissed earlier today.

I’m no media darling

Sizwe asked Malema how he felt about the media in South Africa and according to Malema, his relationship with the country’s media is both complimentary and constructive. He feels that the media should be held accountable for how they disseminate information and where some journalists fail to see out their duties professionally to be called to order.

“I’m no media darling. I don’t want to be. The media can write whatever they want to about me, it doesn’t phase me. It doesn’t detract from the job at hand and what I want to achieve.”

Malema maintains that his focus is on fighting for the plight of the people. This has always been the priority of his party which is what happened when the ruling party lost control over some metros.

“We were never in bed with the DA. We were never in a coalition. It was all politics. We wanted to humble the ANC, all the opposing parties so we worked together to get the votes from the metros.”

You heard it first on Kaya Drive with Sizwe Dhlomo

On his future plans, Malema spoke about going back into farming if his career in politics doesn’t work out. His family has a huge plot of land with cattle and when he left the ANCYL he found himself taking up his family’s farm.

That’s where Malema will see out his final days, with his children and his wife.

Malema confided in Sizwe that he changed his lifestyle after the ANCYL because one can’t be young forever. “When you’re young, there are certain things you can get away with. Partying and things aren’t important when you get older. When you start a family, it’s growth. I never had a father figure growing up, I want to be there for my boys.”

The leader of the EFF and his wife Mantwa Matlala have 3 boys and Malema wants to make sure he is a good father and present, guiding them.

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Also read: WATCH: EFF MP Mam Khawula breaks down as she shares fatal incidents in KZN

Written by: Natasha


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